Monday, October 30, 2006
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Sunday, September 17, 2006
Wednesday, September 13, 2006
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what a wonderful thing is this creation! Meaning of same thing changes with position, context, capacity and response of sensing being. The wave particle duality of every object has long been understood by human being. You can understand almost everything as wave or as particle - at atomic and universal level. However, none of the two is able to explain every phenomenon and so it really is futile to try to prove supremacy of one over the other. I accept both - matter and energy - soul and body, cause that which exists is one but manifestations due to enormous variety of contexts are many. Soul is different from body as clay is different from house. House is clay too. Body itself is soul in different form.
cancer can be caused by hundred thousand different things. In our body thousands of cancer causing cells are formed every day but body's defense mechanism checks newly manufactured cells and destroys them. So most of us don't develop cancer until our body keeps doing its work. Mind and body definitely work very intimately together. So mind may affect body - in both good and bad ways.
Tension can kill. I believe proper practice of spirituality can make your mind healthy and build up good team work of mind and body. Swami Vivekananda always put high emphasis on healthy body.
I think chance of having negative impact by spirituality is similar to an aircrafts crashing i.e. one in million. So nothing to worry. In any case, it is very difficult to become even a little spiritual in this material world.
What a wonderful way to waste time. Hey Vivekananda, you were right when you said that for thousands of years Indians are just discussing whether to eat with right or left hand. I am a pure Indian.
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From: Jandhyala Neehar >>
A word of comment on what Krishna wrote. All the elevated people never attach themselves to the body. Not just saints, but we might find one around ourselves. Itââ¬â¢s wisdom. Taking the case of saints, this idea is something they have long adopted. Ramana Maharshi compared the cancer to a jewel shining, when the wound was reflecting daylight because of the puss. He said, the body is doing its work, why
interfere. He compared the diseases to guests, who come and stay for sometime. When their work is finished they leave. My grandmother also used to talk the same way. They are so egoless and humble, they try to set an example to others that - you can also be a saint. Sai Baba did not get his hand treated by the alopathic doctor; instead from a leper
devotee who used to undergo the process of massaging his hand with ghee and putting on the bandage everyday, till his mahasamadhi. There is a certain reason and idea behind why they suffer. Also, saits can go into samadhi with their heart completely stopped according to their wish. So, saying spirituality causes certain cancer is a reward to them. Its their yoga powers acting according to their wish for the welfare of others. They feel responsible. We can compare their love to mother's who takes a lot of care of the child. Would it mean that having children makes a woman undergo lot of troubles...for 9 months initially, then 10 years of their mischief and after all this you never know, they might even abandon. But love she bores never declines.
As Swami Vivekananda says - work as if there is infinite time in front of you. You just change the body, work will never cease. Thatââ¬â¢s why we believe in avatars. Work is carried out at all times.
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Dear Sadhakaji
creators. CHILDREN OF LESSER GODS therefore know that being this we
cannot in being spiritual which is the essence of our very being,
cause anything so very material like a disease....
means being in awareness and with awareness. When we are in this
state it is automatic that we will only have positive ions. All ions
referred to here is particulate presences which are not matter but
is the state of beingness which makes matter...
potent and important item which constitutes a very real strong item
from where we source all our creative zeal. Rishis who suffer and
show us how to conquer it are exemplars for all people, Ramana who
also exemplified and showed us the way is no ordinary mortal; Ramana
Maharishi is God,like many Rishis of yore he attained Godliness and
has merged with God. Ramanaji's soul is on its way to become Godhead
since the journey into Godliness is also ardous and has to be
completed in time..the ascension is very hard and it becomes harder
as you become tougher and the toughest conquers the first step of
the godhead ladder...that is how it all happens.
SPIRITUALITY WITH SPIRITUALITY CAN TAKE ON ANY OTHER ENERGY , IF YOU
DO THEN THERE IS NO SPIRITUALITY IN YOU . THIS IS CARDINAL TO
UNDERSTAND. BEING SPIRITUAL AND DOING EVERYTHING TO KEEP TO THE
SPIRITUAL NORMS MEANS THAT YOU ARE IMMUNE FROM ANY OF THE MATERIAL
HARMS OF ANY KIND...THERE CAN BE NO IMBIBING OF ANY ENERGY
INADVERTENTLY.... AND DEFINITELY NO DISEASES OR MATERIAL ILLNESSES
WHICH SPIRITUALITY TRUE AND REAL SPIRITUALITY CAN ENTERTAIN
Sunday, August 27, 2006
Entry for August 28, 2006
An atheist professor of philosophy speaks to his class on the problem
science has with God, The Almighty. He asks one of his
new students to
stand and.....
Prof: So you believe in God?
Student: Absolutely, sir.
Prof: Is God good?
Student: Sure.
Prof: Is God all-powerful?
Student: Yes.
Prof: My brother died of cancer even though he prayed to God to heal him. Most of us would attempt to help others who are ill. But God didn't. How is this God good then? Hmm?
Student is silent.
Prof: You can't answer, can you? Let's start again,
young fellow. Is God good?
Student: Yes.
Prof: Is Satan good?
Student: No.
Prof: Where does Satan come from?
Student: From...God.. .
Prof: That's right. Tell me son, is there evil in this world?
Student: Yes.
Prof: Evil is everywhere, isn't it? And God did make everything. Correct?
Student: Yes.
Prof: So who created evil?
Student does not answer.
Prof: Is there sickness? Immorality? atred? Ugliness? All these terrible things exist in the world, don't they?
Student: Yes, sir.
Prof: So, who created them?
Student has no answer.
Prof: Science says you have 5 senses you use to identify and observe the world around you. Tell me, son...Have you ever seen God?
Student: No, sir.
Prof: Tell us if you have ever heard your God?
Student: No, sir.
Prof: Have you ever felt your God, tasted your God, smelt your God? Have you ever had any sensory perception of God for that matter?
Student: No, sir. I'm afraid I haven't.
Prof: Yet you still believe in Him?
Student: Yes.
Prof: According to empirical, testable, demonstrable protocol, science says your GOD doesn't exist. What do you say to that, son?
Student: Nothing. I only have my faith.
Prof: Yes Faith. And that is the problem science has.
Now the student said can I ask something to you Professor.
Student: Professor, is there such a thing as heat?
Prof: Yes.
Student: And is there such a thing as cold?
Prof: Yes.
Student: No sir. There
isn't.
(The lecture theatre becomes very quiet with this turn of events.)
Student: Sir, you can have lots of heat, even more heat, superheat, mega heat, white heat, a little heat or no heat. But we don't have anything called cold. We can hit 458 degrees below zero which is no heat, but we can't go any further after that. There is no such thing as cold. Cold is only a word we use to describe the absence of heat. We cannot measure cold. Heat is energy. Cold is not the opposite of heat, sir, just the absence of
it.
(There is pin-drop silence in the lecture theatre.)
Student: What about darkness, Professor? Is there such a thing as darkness?
Prof: Yes. What is night if there isn't darkness?
Student: You're wrong again, sir. Darkness is the absence of something.
You can have low light, normal light, bright light, flashing light... But if you have no light constantly, you have nothing and its called darkness, isn't it? In reality, darkness isn't. If it were you would be able to make darkness darker, wouldn't you?
Prof: So what is the point you are making, young man?
Student: Sir, my point is your philosophical premise is flawed.
Prof: Flawed? Can you explain how?
Student: Sir, you are working on the premise of duality. You argue there is life and then there is death, a good God and a bad God. You are viewing the concept of God as something finite, something we can measure. Sir, science can't even explain a thought. It uses electricity and magnetism, but has never seen, much less fully understood either one. To view death as the opposite of life is to be ignorant of the fact that death cannot exist as a substantive thing. Death is not the
opposite of life: just the absence of it. Now tell me, Professor. Do you teach your students that they evolved from a monkey?
Prof: If you are referring to the natural evolutionary process, yes, of course, I do.
Student: Have you ever observed evolution with your own eyes, sir?
(The Professor shakes his head with a
smile, beginning to realize where the argument is going.)
Student: Since no one has ever observed the process of evolution at work and cannot even prove that this process is an on-going endeavor, are you not teaching your opinion, sir? Are you not a scientist but a preacher?
(The class is in uproar.)
Student: Is there anyone in the class who has ever seen the Professor's brain?
(The class breaks out into laughter.)
Student: Is there anyone here, who has ever heard the Professor's brain, felt it, touched or smelt it? No one appears to have done so. So, according to the established rules of empirical, stable, demonstrable protocol, science says that you have no brain, sir. With all due respect, sir, how do we then trust your lectures, sir?
(The room is silent. The professor stares at the student, his face unfathomable. )
Prof: I guess you'll have to take them on faith, son.
Student: That is it sir... The link between man & god is FAITH. That is all that keeps things moving & alive. .
Monday, July 3, 2006
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Monthly e-Newsletter of Uttishthata Yahoo! Group, Volume # 1, Issue # 1 4th July 2006
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Contents of this issue:
TOC
The National Significance of The Swami Vivekananda’s Life and Work
Vivekananda's Message of Universalism
The Social Thought of Swami Vivekananda
An Incident from Mahabharata - Educate the Deserving
A Poem with Inspiration from Vivekananda
Introduction to the 1st issue
I reverentially salute you who have all those pure qualities such as liking for the company of good people, appreciation for the good qualities in others, humility towards one’s teacher, hankering for knowledge, love for the life partner, fear of ill-fame, devotion to Shankara, ability to control oneself, and avoiding the company of wicked people.
Friends, we are happy to serve you with this ‘Uttishthata Groupzine’. We need your feedback and support to run this Groupzine. As the name suggest it will be of the group, by the group, for the group. So you have to run this periodical by regular supply of materials for its contents. Your participation and involvement is highly needed.
Today is Swami Vivekananda’s Mahasamadhi day. Though it is a sad event for us still it is a memorable day. Why he selected this day is not known but we can guess that it is just to signify his long cherished dream and what he always preached – freedom. 4th July is the American Independence day and during his time that was the only country known to be free.
Josephine Macleod in her reminiscences recorded the last conversation she had with Swami Vivekananda, which took place in Belur Math in March 1902. She wrote: “He said to me, ‘I shall never see forty.’ I, knowing he was thirty-nine, said to him, ‘But Swami, Buddha did not do his great work until between forty and eighty.’ But he said, ‘I delivered my message and I must go.’ I asked, ‘Why go?’ and he said, ‘The shadow of a big tree will not let the smaller trees grow up. I must go to make room.’â€
His every action was for freedom; he never wanted persons who follow him should be under his influence. He wanted them to grow as they are from ‘lower truth to higher truth’.
So through this Uttishthata Groupzine we shall carry the messages of our Holy Trio – Sri Ramakrishna, Sri Sarada Devi and Swami Vivekananda – the messages of Freedom from bondage, Divinity of the Soul, Universal Brotherhood, Oneness of Being, propagating human dignity and above all the message of strength and fearlessness.
We are sure our members at Uttishthata shall appreciate this endeavour and shall circulate this Uttishthata Groupzine among their friends, colleagues, and like-minded persons. Don’t just keep this with you. You can get a print out and give it to your children and parents. They shall certainly benefit from it.
The National Significance of
The Swami Vivekananda's Life And Work - Selections
- Sister Nivedita
(Written in The Hindu, July 27, 1902, few days after Swami Vivekananda's MahaSamadhi)
Of the bodily presence of him who was known to the world as Vivekananda, all that remains today is a bowl of ashes. The light that has burned in seclusion during the last five years by our riverside, has gone out now. The great voice that rang out across the nations is hushed in death.
Life had come often to this mighty soul as storm and pain. But the end was peace. Silently, at the close of even song, on a dark night of Kali, came the benediction of death. The weary and tortured body was laid down gently and the triumphant spirit was restored to the eternal Samadhi.
He passed, when the laurels of his first achievements were yet green. He passed, when new and greater calls were ringing in his ears. Quietly, in the beautiful home of his illness, the intervening years with some few breaks, went by amongst plants and animals, unostentatiously training the disciples who gathered round him, silently ignoring the great fame that had shone upon his name. Man-making was his own stern brief summary of the work that was worth doing. And laboriously, unflaggingly, day after day, he set himself to man-making, playing the part of Guru, of father, even of schoolmaster, by turns. The very afternoon of the day he left us, had he not spent three hours in giving a Sanskrit lesson on the Vedas?
External success and leadership were nothing to such a man. During his years in the West, he made rich and powerful friends, who would gladly have retained him In their midst. But for him, the Occident, with all its luxuries had no charms. To him, the garb of a beggar, the lanes of Calcutta, and the disabilities of his own people, were more dear than all the glory of the foreigner, and detaining hands had to loose their hold of one who passed ever onward toward the East.
TO BE CONTINUED….
Vivekananda's Message of Universalism
The message of universalism at its best which Swami Vivekananda learnt sitting at the feet of his Master, Sri Ramakrishna, was proclaimed by him in 1893 at the Chicago Parliament of Religions:
"... If there is ever to be a universal religion, it must be one which will have no location in place or time; which will be infinite, like the God it will preach, and whose sun will shine upon the followers of Krishna and of Christ, on saints and sinners alike; which will not be Brahmanic or Buddhistic, Christian or Mohammedan, but the sum-total of all these, and still have infinite space for development; which in its catholicity will embrace in its infinite arms, and find a place for, every human being. ... It will be a religion which will have no place for persecution or intolerance in its polity, which will recognize divinity in every man and woman, and whose whole scope, whose whole force, will be centered in aiding humanity to realise its own true, divine nature. . . . The Christian is not to become a Hindu or a Buddhist, nor a Hindu or a Buddhist to become a Christian. But each must assimilate the spirit of the others and yet preserve his individuality and grow according to his own law of growth." (CW of SV Vol. 1, pp.17-22)
His concluding words were:
"Help and not Fight,"
"Assimilation and not Destruction,"
"Harmony and Peace and not Dissension.""
The reality of religion, its universality and harmonizing influence cannot be proved by the sword or by theological warfare, but by one's own spiritual experience.
The Social Thought of Swami Vivekananda
by Swami Atmajnanananda
Swami Vivekananda once remarked to a disciple in San Francisco, "You know, I may have to be born again. You see, I have fallen in love with man." When we study the life of Swami Vivekananda and read his lectures and writings, particularly his letters, we see what a tremendous force this love of mankind was for him.
From the time he decided to come to the Parliament of Religions in Chicago in 1893 up until the end of his short life in 1902, his love for mankind, his sympathy for the poor and downtrodden of all lands, and his great devotion to his Motherland and her depressed masses were the motivating power behind all of his actions. In his social views, whether on caste, education, women's rights, or the conditions of the masses, the one common factor was his great sympathy for all who suffer. It was this sympathy of heart which impelled him to accomplish as much as he did in such a short period of time; and it was the same sympathy of heart which brought so much suffering to his life as well.
In considering the social philosophy of Swami Vivekananda, we should always keep one thing in mind: Swamiji was not a man to be easily categorized. He himself had a distinct distaste for any "isms", and it would be a mistake to try to categorize his beliefs as falling within any particular school of thought, such as humanism, socialism, or the like.
Undoubtedly, many of his views are in sympathy with those of different political and social philosophies, and various proponents of different schools have rightfully drawn inspiration from his words and deeds. However, Swamiji's teachings were never based on any sectarian allegiance, but rather on his own spiritual convictions regarding the divinity of the soul, the oneness of existence, and the worship of God in man.
To be continued in the next issue…
An Incident from Mahabharata - Educate the Deserving:
Education is the manifestation of the perfection already in man
- Swami Vivekananda
The philosophy of yoga is portrayed in the epics of Hindu scriptures, including the Mahabharata. It is in this epic that we see a story that exemplifies the philosophy of knowledge: knowledge does not belong to you, rather you belong to knowledge. When we realize this concept, we do not become arrogant of our knowledge, and thus, we begin to realize the spiritual dimension of knowledge. Knowledge may be of the world, but the wisdom that we belong to the knowledge and not visa versa, is spiritual knowledge. Let us further explore this concept through a story found in the Mahabharata.
Upon the recommendation of Bhishma, King Dritarastra appointed Drona as the teacher of both the Kaurvas and Pandavas. Drona’s son, Ashwatthama, is also learning under the tutelage of his father since he is around the same age as the others. One of the Pandava brothers is Arjuna, a great archer.
One day, while being trained, Ashwatthama approaches his father, who is also his teacher, and impatiently states, “Father, I heard some people talking and I want to know if it is true.â€
“What is it my dear son?†Drona was concerned about is disturbing his son. Ashwatthama asked, “I heard you are teaching a special archery technique to Arjuna. Is this true?â€
“Yes, my dear son, but why are you asking this?†Drona asked.
Ashwatthama continued, “Why are you not teaching me this technique? Why are you teaching it to Arjuna?â€
Drona calmly responds with a question, “Who is asking me this question? Are you asking as my son or my student? Please clarify this first.â€
Ashwatthama was surprised by this question. “Of course, I am your son and I am asking. Don’t you love me? Don’t you think that what belongs to you first belongs to your son before it is shared with others? Is this not true father?â€
Drona patiently, yet firmly responds, “My son, I really love you. I love you so much that I live only for your sake. If I ever hear that you have died, I shall die the very next moment.†(During the epic, when the war occurs and Drona hears of his son’s death, that very moment Drona dies)
“But if you love me so much, why do you not give me the knowledge?†Ashwatthama asks.
Drona gives his son great wisdom in the context of his answer which is full of love and affection towards him. “My dear son, as you are my son, all of my property and wealth belongs to you. But my knowledge belongs to my student and not to my son. In reality, it is so because the knowledge does not belong to me, I belong to it. By coming to someone, knowledge gives one freedom and happiness. Because knowledge gives all of that, you have to be humble and respectful to the knowledge. Therefore, you belong to the knowledge and not otherwise. I, therefore, belong to the knowledge. The knowledge does not belong to me. Therefore, I have the responsibility towards the knowledge to pass it on to someone who deserves it.
Ashwatthama still did not completely understand. He seeks further clarification in this regard, “But I am your student as well. So why do you choose to pass this knowledge on to Arjuna and not me?â€
Drona patiently explained, “The knowledge will only be given to the deserving student and not anyone else.â€
“But how do you say that I am not the deserving student?†Ashwatthama further questioned.
“My son, the very fact that you are asking this question is evidence that you do not deserve and have not proved your deservedness in the eyes of the teacher. I do not really owe any further explanation. However, out of my compassion for you, I shall answer your question. I shall show you tomorrow, on the exam, that Arjuna is the only deserving student.â€
The next day, Drona gave the exam and proved that Arjuna has been the only student who actually obeys his orders perfectly.
This is a beautiful incident where has been a great teacher who did not deviate from his Dharma, or duty, as a teacher and did not come under the spell of his attachment to his son. Though Ashwatthama is his son and he loves him absolutely, he could discriminate the difference between his love and his attachment.
Drona also exhibited that knowledge does not belong to him but he belongs to knowledge and that he must be humble to this knowledge. The stories of the Mahabharata are not just stories giving incidents but they are lessons of a higher and subtler reality told by several characters. It is the story of yoga in practice.
Love,
Raghuram
http://nvraghuram.blogspot.com/2006/05/incident-from-mahabharata.html
Transport work into worship:
The world is a training ground and not a pleasure garden as many wrongly suppose. The pleasure seekers who shirk their duty or do it haphazardly create great bondage for them and hamper their evolution. While those sincere soul who boldly face the realities of life and perform their duty wholeheartedly, without attachment and as a form of service to the Divine, attain to mental purity and higher evolution leading to spiritual illumination and inner peace and blessedness.
Work and worship must go hand in had. And work done in the right spirit is acceptable to the Divine as much as devoted worship consisting prayer and meditation etc. My teacher
Swami Brahmananda gave me this instruction—“Before you begin to work remember the Lord & offer salutation to Him. Do the same at intervals in the course of the work, and also after you finish it.â€
Through practice you may be able to repeat the Lord’s name, or chant a hymn or prayer and think of Him, as your hands are busy with work. It is in this way that a devotee is able to transform work into worship, and be nearer and nearer to God. May He bless you all in every way in your attempts to realize Him.
- Divine Light, Swami Yatishwarananda
A Poem with Inspiration from Vivekananda
Contribution from: nikhilanurag
Hello folks...
Well, when I first came across Vivi (Swami Vivekananda of course, but I see him as my friend and mentor than someone great (which he definitely is!) So spare me the obsequies.) from the book, "The Call to His Nation" This little book inspired me SOOO much that the poems I used to write which were based on love theme from the sad point of view, transformed into something which looked beyond such normal things and aimed for higher goal. I have written so far something like five to six of them and here is one of them which is more or less in accordance with this group's motto. So here it is...
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Man of Illusion:
Ah! This human,
Lives in such a folly
As to believe himself to be weak,
Nothing more than a body.
Has he not created music?
Does he not know to love?
Has he not shown love for others,
More than mere himself?
Does he not still protect others,
When he has no animal instinct to do so?
Why doest thou think thou are weak?
Why doest thou believe that thy can not do anything?
Never think of yourself low,
You are the one who can create life!
And yet, it's no normal life,
But of other great souls.
It is you alone who can give create saints,
It is you alone who can achieve greatness.
Shed you fears, shed your doubts.
Arise! For you are not one to sit and cry for pittance!
It is for weak to weep,
It is for weak to cry.
It is for them alone,
To halt and look upon their past,
And feel remorse for their losses.
And yet, man is not weak!
Man is not to look upon his past.
You conquered the moon,
You conquered the space!
Then why are you dejected?
Arise!!!
Bhagavad Gita
Subject: Guilt, Infatuation and Apprehension
Meaning: Dhritrastra asked, “O Sanjaya, what did the sons of Pandu and mine do when they assembled, with the desire to fight, on the holy field of Kurukshetra?†(1-1)
Lesson: Guilt and infatuation make people apprehensive."
Manohar Abhay
"Arise! Awake! Struggle on and stop not till the goal is reached" – Swami Vivekananda
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